About this episode

Bobby and Khalil discuss St. John of the Cross and spiritual growth. The conversation also includes joy, making people comfortable, and the challenges of gloomy winter months.

They also discuss seasonal depression during the winter months, speculation about aliens, and references to C.S. Lewis.

In this episode

  • St. John of the Cross and spiritual growth
  • Joy and making people comfortable
  • Gloomy winter months and seasonal depression
  • Speculation about aliens and references to C.S. Lewis

Bobby Fredericksen and Khalil Hattar